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On runes I do use the zone chat but even that is dead in some zones. I have been in guilds in both games and they appear to be active for a while then I am not on for a bit due to family stuff usually and come back and either guild members are never on or the guild is disbanded. Anyways I was wondering how fun is this game. I have read about the hackers, and bots and such which really does suck. I was wondering if this was still true. I am just looking for something fun to play and pass time with and that has a good community. I really don't mind grinding that much, as long as it is broken up some. Such as some quest be kill X amount of creatures and report back and others be go take item A to NPC B and bring back Item C or even kill and gather quest. One reason I don't play perfect world is because of too much of Kill X Creature quest. Dekaron Dil players can look pass that though if the game is fun in the process.